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Well the greenhouse is only 240 sq/ft, it is never over 85-90f now with a small box fan on input at top and the bilge fan on a thermostat. I only put 3 tight bends in and the flow drag sheds more heat I think. DC Motor not getting hot at all.

​@@441rider On a sunny spring day, the air running through my tubes can drop 30 degrees in less than half a second. Long tubes and sharp bends reduce the amount of air you can run.

Hi, I would recommend you line a hole 4'x4" or so with thick styro insulation 4 feet deep. Our frost line it 18" or so so in winter heavy mulch around trunk and frost bag it in freezes. Some mandarins likr yours are fine with a 2-4" plus trunk otherwise build a poly cover and use Christmas bulbs for heat. Have not seen an inground tasty citrus here yet in 10 years.

Their own flower pollen will drop into itself but mixing means pollen transfer which may produce better fruit or worse. The fan may help cross pollination of types. I don't think the trees will fit next summer. :) PS the tabac is growing well inside traded 3 for a weeks worth of lattes at cafe LOL! Single season up to 5-6 feet at peak here.

Oh I have a 6" hole at front for bees and bugs and ants roaming looking for honey dew on leaves but I have no scale or aphids so the ants track pollen around.

Thanks, the one with all the flowers produced two 5" fruit last season so hopefully we move up to 3 or 4. Two inside on the big yuzu graft as well but no huge growth spurt like these. Learning,

@@441rider doing great I'd say, fingers 🤞

Pee also has a ton of nitrogen and even can be used in compost. It will be interesting to see it grow, hippies use pee but not within 6-8 weeks of harvest, like the USDA checks compost manuer for potting soil to make sure the heat sterilizes it before being used on plants for food. He has no worm farm inside I am sure. :)

i think the compost box wall will work, I think I may put bottom grate at 12" down then part of compost will be insulated more. I have foam to line compost box as well and have studied the chemestry and no rush to get it going yet.

@@441rider you're going to go down twice the depth that you are at now, 12 feet? Or is that 12 inches? Why don't you guys use metric in Canada? You do it with temperature, right? If it's 12 feet, then that'll be a deep hole, watch out it doesn't cave in on you, that could be dangerous! If it's 12 inches down, then that's close to the top, no problem and no danger 🙂.

@@rjung_ch The 12 inches or 30cm or so for under compost box ten it will drop to 5 feet 140cm to meet up with the other hole in the basket sink before returning to input to the greenhouse. We use metric I just grew up on UK bikes and visits to the states LOL!

Thanks, The greenhouse is around 250 cubic feet less pots etc making it closer to 200 c/ft. The inline fan produces 180cfm So in theory when 0c 32f comes I can turn over the whole space with 60 c/f of hose in 2 minutes to fight off the cold or make the terra cotta crisco or DC inline heater circulate faster. I am mentally preparing for the flash dig next week. 3hrs estimate I hope. Be interesting to see how much heat gets stored down there detachable probe lead installed already.

@@441rider 180cfm in a 3" tube will have a velocity of 61 feet per second! A serpentine layout with 3" tubing and 3 x 180 degree bends will give you maybe 40cfm at best, the velocity will be around 13.5 feet per second.

The rabbit hole averaged down to 14.1c and I put a foil duct cover over outside but that will need good insulation for winter. If it holds 14c that is great, we have only had 1 month of any real heat so perhaps that is close to year round. I added extra space for the extra draw on interior.

When opportunity rises I will replace the rad fan as it is loud with a brushless 4" direct to hose. I left a coin at bottom of hole too LOL!

@@441rider Like the roof builders used to leave a coin in the past, sweet!

Some varieties really don't match in vigor take for example the cocktail grapefruit it will quickly graft and dominate tree. This is a good experiment for those with limited income and space. 3 trees still in the apartment so may get a dolly to get them out.

The greenhouse door is open and exhaust fan if the pollinators get through when off. Most citrus in industry is self pollinating as well so wind or fan is good enough. The manderin is up to 7 flowers 1 set micro fruit so have 3 types growing fruit x 9 trees. The coffee cuttings still good but growth above is very slow. Got vegis in outdoor box planted and mulched.

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Thanks! the apt still has the tall trees squatting but I plan on kicking them out once fruit is ripe. Perfect for grafting just added the 7th citrus on the Meyer so it is now flowering Cocktail grapefruit, Lemons, has healed satsuma scion, Navel orange healed scion, Clemintine scion from grocer, Yuzu, Kafir healed branch from water shoot I grafted too. I will add Kishu in fall for 8th. I have two old Calimondan orange trees/bushes I plan on cutting back to graft more back ups. Preserve the citrus data LOL! Started this indoors when Mars trip started to see if you could sustain for years inside then build habitat for them. Spent a bit of time in FL never lost the liking of humid weather.

@441rider wow impressive grafts! The humidity in Florida is brutal

Thanks the grapefruit inside are now 3" x2. I will do an unpeeling video LOL!

Like drones size limit LOL! renting and pretty lucky to have it. I have 4 trees inside 2 are too tall but have fruit I eat. Just survived these lows a couple of leaf drops. Thinking of doing a fpv vid soon still have 4 Geprc's and steam boat FPV boats. Date Extreme Apr 20 2024 -1.7 °C Apr 19 2024 -3.3 °C Apr 18 2024 0.0 °C Apr 17 2024 0.0 °C

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I think the city here is sensitive to trench lawns because of gas lines etc but I have had the lawn dug for sewer pipe years ago so it is clear and pretty much sand once you get past foot of soil. Been looking at cheapo 5kw diesel heaters which may work in coldest months.

Hey thanks, I need a few more boards but I have the truck guy's saw so should have a drive. Back in 2016 I was pulling 10ft steel 1/2" rod off a 10 foot shelf and the rod let loose sending me and ladder back to concrete floor upon which I did a judo fall and landed on hip left broke elbow slapping it down LOL!. The sciatic became pinched between the leg bone and hip and I needed nerve block needles 6-8 months. Finally I had a chiro guy literally pull leg out of socket and it released but damage was done. I don't do pain killers just neproxin and a couple of nerve pills. The right hip issues is from kicking the BSA 32 years or so but it was worth it. LOL!

@@441rider that BSA kicking sure is tough on the knee. I've only ever owned one kick starter bike myself. It was a 125 Honda, one cylinder. A buddy of mine from childhood owns a 1940 HD with foot clutch and shifter by the tank. The other day his foot skipped off the clutch, the bike lounged a bit forward with him on it, into an iron post and gouged his leg pretty bad. He's getting too old for that, he's had 3 encounters over the last 10 years, hospital and recovery each time. Each time, some other part of his body and bones are broken. Too much downtime and less riding the bikes. I own a Honda, boring but reliable and doesn't matter what, always purrs along and gets me anywhere I care to go. Thanks for the info about your history, I'd say you were lucky you reacted that well. Could have been way worse for sure. Enjoy the spring time in the region, it's warmer when I see the daily temperature on Alan's videos. Cheers!

I think for the solar power it matters but since my east side is long that is only place for full sun it may be better clear for plants especially if I double wall for winter. Hade huge plexi picture cover so will use the frame to go onto 2x2 wall when built to hold it and look nice framing plants.

I used to spend winter in Florida Naples area and the fires are called smudge pots now a days they use gas I think but back in 80s they billowed black soot. I am following that idea. saving to buy proper 2x2 lengths to mount to the windows so I can have a double wall with air gap for winter next year. I may do a great escape trick and dig down 3 feet to fit the 7 foot tree and warm it with ground.

PS the wick will not ignite the liquid shortening if it gets knocked over and I have the alarm set to spray the hot oil at the entrance. Kidding, :)

@@441rider that's from the 80's when I heard of this, cheers. My parents lived in Orlando for a few years and moved closer to us when we had kids. You are putting many ideas to use. Double walling is a big benefit, how much space are you aiming for? Volume will be a factor, respectively the thickness.

2" air using the boards as the gauge hopefully I can get 10'x6' double wall polycarbonate for outside then I can put poly on inside with the 4x8 foam in it at base. The metal trim on bay windows is 2" and it will clean it up. Landlord had one question is it on the property? then no problem. LOL!@@rjung_ch

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That's a fact, have fun!

Got lucky with the big battery last on that is a 12v car alarm with remote if it gets moved from it place. I think the tub water will always except at night be cooler than the top of greenhouse. I may draw air into it to absorb the extra heat of day too. I had to find a good instructions vid on temp control and only good one was from a guy real smart guy in Ghana. LOL!

Yup, I had to disconnect fan as it is cloudy today but had power going to it. Once I have the pump it will slow fan but the solar is for months from now as I lost my tiny 12v heater and no cooling is required at 10c.

In the planning for 5 or 6 years looking at those windows in the garage. I'll wait till it is 15c or higher and I get the 12v mister pump going and fan which will increase with direct sun to cool it down. :) It doesn't always cost money to have fun.

Just added a 40 gallon tub with black side facing south and transferred rainwater inside the greenhouse/cabinet and put in pump for test on batt. Goldfish next if I can foil the racoon family. May need cattle fence wire so no one moves in! LOL!

@@441rider will you put the fish in the water which you recycle through the plants back to the water? My daughter studied environmental engineering and that's what they had at her school, a garden, a big basin of water filled with fish and it was a circular setup, not sure how much fresh water they added or how the filtration worked. This will be great come spring. We just had a tad of snow this morning, but it's gone again.

Hey be sure to check out my old channel TheTeslaJet used to sell turbines for education.

I guess with enough sugar they would make good jelly. My grandma made cherry and apple jelly and it took me years to stop eating the wax on top LOL! The coffee cuttings are a gamble but I used a store bought jelly growth stim called Roots. Weather has tulips and others out but I will wait 1 month before moving out any trees other than figs. Then I am building a display oak cabinet vivarium for two of the better trees and humid Florida conditions.

@@441rider sounds like a good plan. You have great hobbies, bikes and plants. I need to get some plants growing as well, used to years ago, I should restart it myself one day.

Well this is about the 4th vid with coffee cutting on YT in all the millions of vids so there is a lot more to learn. Indoor may be future ways things are going food price wise.@@rjung_ch

I tried to make a short of this vid but it was too long. Had some curing issues with model now trying a patch fix with proper sealing and a glove coating I can bind to existing mold. Otherwise have to cut centre out and repour the parts. Be eating oatmeal a while after this LOL!